Ini: I think we now live in a, i want to say post but not quite. We live currently in in a roll up orld where we have live roll ups coming on. And that's useful because it scales roll ups. This actually leads really nicely into kind of my last question of this interview,. which is about the roll ups and you're thinking, from where you're sitting about them. If you compare it like two years ago or three years ago, are you actively working on designing this out, or is this like the ecosystem build stuff, and then you're trying to find ways to help? That's definitely one of the big questions, i guess, thike

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