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"I just want you to admit that yours is a battle to since you obviously worship at the fountain of reason or else we wouldn't have these kinds of conversations," he says. "It's so funny that like it really is temperamental at this point between the two of us because I like it often happens and then I just see that you see that." He adds, "I'm always deeply suspicious about insight that comes from somebody's idiosyncratic experience"
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