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#68: Bobby Pinero - CEO of Equals & Intercom's Former Head of Finance & Analytics

The Exit Five CMO Podcast (Hosted by Dave Gerhardt)

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The Return to Rigorousness of Sales and Marketing

It's almost like a different than four or five years ago where there was a little bit more growth at all costs, you're going to now have the beans counted pretty tightly and then build on that foundation. In some ways, it is good from a business fundamental standpoint of like, let's do things that we know are driving business for us. And there's definitely from what I've seen, seeds and series A's are certainly easier to come by these days. It's the series B series, series C series D's where things are kind of crunching up and there's really just no activity there.

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