How Did You Go From Organizational to Personal Evangelism?

Dan Brown: I've been a deconstructed minister now for since 1999. That could be my card. Okay. So personal evangelism, how did that change the church in Wales? Like what, where did that story go? Where did that chapter go? Well, I kept trying to do like the traditional where church as an audience, you know, come, come in, sit down, shut up and listen. And it just, it wasn't working there. For the Welsh population, they've only been to church for weddings and funerals. It's a very formal place.