A rebroadcast of a chat hosts Andy Cleff, Ben Au-Yeung, Serge Marten, and Jay Hrcsko had with Dave Snowden about Spiral Dynamics, Integral Theory, and Metamodernism.  We explore thru a Boxian lens "All models are wrong, but some are useful."  Are these effective tools for organizations to gain new perspectives on themselves? Are there other potentially better ways to journey in complex adaptive systems? Contact Information LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-snowden-2a93b/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/snowded Website Books/Articles/Videos Events About the Agile Uprising If you enjoyed this episode, please give us a review, a rant, or leave comments on your podcasting platform of choice. It really helps others find us.  Much thanks to the artist  from  who provided us our outro music free-of-charge!  If you like what you heard,     to find more music you might enjoy! If you’d like to join the discussion and share your stories,  please jump into the fray at our  We at the Agile Uprising are committed to being totally free.  However, if you’d like to contribute and help us defray hosting and production costs we do have a .  Who knows, you might even get some surprises in the mail!