Retirement’s Four Distinct Phases

Dana Anspach, CFP® and founder of Sensible Money, returns to explain why retirement isn't one long, predictable chapter, it's a series of distinct phases with different financial and emotional needs. Using the framework from her new book, Living Off Your Acorns, Dana walks Bill and Jackie through the pre-go, go-go, slow-go, and no-go years.

This episode covers

1. Dana's four phases of retirement: pre-go, go-go, slow-go, and no-go
2. Why retirement planning should begin at least five years before leaving work
3. The emotional transition from receiving a paycheck to living off your accumulated "acorns"
4. A three-part pre-retirement checklist: cash flow, stress testing, and planning your time
5. Why social connections and identity need as much planning as the financial side
6. Fundedness ratios, the Critical Path, and alternatives to relying only on a safe withdrawal rate
7. Special considerations for people retiring early, including healthcare and longer time horizons
8. Mortgages, HELOCs, pledged asset lines, and when debt can still be useful in retirement
9. How spending naturally changes during the slow-go years
10. Fraud, cognitive decline, powers of attorney, and preparing for someone else to eventually help manage your finances

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RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW

Sensible Money

📙Living Off Your Acorns

The Retirement Manifesto

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