How did Donald Trump get close to Elon Musk? What is the story behind his relationship with Melania, and how did Trump get re-elected against all the odds?

Donald Trump is no stranger to the journalist Michael Wolff, whose latest book is his fourth on the current president. His book, All or Nothing, details the story of Trump’s comeback and and his relationships to the people who helped him do it.

Trump himself has called Wolff “fake news” and described the book as “junk.”

Justin spoke with the journalist and author about who is sources are, whether he spoke to Trump whilst writing this book, and why a staffer carries a printer on the golf course.

HOSTS:

* Justin Webb, Radio 4 presenter

GUEST:

* Michael Wolff, journalist and author of “All or Nothing: How Trump Recaptured America”

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