It's very hard to enforce norms, especially because people have their own private incentives to be aggressiveand ante andte a kill. But luckily, for the past 70 years or so, we've been able to institute a new norm that we didn't have since world were to a norm against aggressive warfare. And what we're seeing now in eukranus is a threat to that norm. I do think it would be hard to get down to zero. Unfortunately, the world would be much safer without any.

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