Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds on the Frustration of Staying Neutral in Presidential Politics

Casey Marrilla, producer on the NPR Politics Podcast with a quick plug for our most recent bonus episode that's available now. What was a goat doing at the rodeo in the first place? Apparently like goats are a pretty like standard part of a rodeo event. Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds who you mentioned Clay has been interviewing these candidates. And I know that Donald Trump at least seems to have a fraught relationship with her because she has not gone all in on his candidacy.