The Evolution of the Universe

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i think steve gould confused about three different things. He confounded rapid gradualism, where you have alipatric speciation and em progressive evolution is happening continuously, but in a different place. And also macromutation, goldsmith type, hopeful monsters, buc it, again, is a totally different thing. I thin do alde has a lot oon con i think Steffan Gould was wrong to introduce multi level selection. You know, now i can talk about all these other things that happen above the level of natural selection operating on onjen again,. But that's problematic, because exactly how does that happen? Let's switch topics. T talk about christ

In episode 205, Michael Shermer speaks with Richard Dawkins, the author of The Selfish Gene, voted The Royal Society’s Most Inspiring Science Book of All Time, and also the bestsellers The Blind Watchmaker, Climbing Mount Improbable, The Ancestor’s Tale, The God Delusion, and two volumes of autobiography, An Appetite for Wonder and Brief Candle in the Dark. He is a Fellow of New College, Oxford and both the Royal Society and the Royal Society of Literature. In 2013, Dawkins was voted the world’s top thinker in Prospect magazine’s poll of 10,000 readers from over 100 countries.

This episode is heavily edited because Dawkins was having trouble with his voice, and Shermer tried to speak a little more to give Dawkins a chance to let his voice rest.