I agree with both plato and aristotle, though maybe not with everyone. I think there's something self focused about aspiration even when it's moral. If i'm thinking of this fundamentally in terms of my own aspirational project to be more brave, i'll feel bad about what this means for my cowardice. And so i do think that aristotle thinks that at a certain point, like your character, its kind of fixed. Your life is no longer about coming to appreciate values more fully. You should do as much good as you can with the appreciation that you've got. So i'm going to hold both of those, don't you think? Um, yes.