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Is There a Vacuum?
"If you don't want them to keep seeing poverty, just pick up all those fucking poor people and put in between four walls," he says. "It's really messed up, but that's exactly what it is." In a lot of encampments where people are struggling, the reaction by city councils has been like, 'We got to bulldoze these places' He urges abolition truly more than anything else requires you to be thoughtful about your goals.