In the physician suicide rates about twice that for the rest of society. And so a couple of things to keep in mind from that case that I think come out really nicely is employees need to feel like they have a say in the policies and practices that an organization is implementing. So part of what we talk about is that learned helplessness played a role in the negative employee outcomes in that situation. The take home message is that there's things that we can all do as managers as leaders in our organizations to support these fundamental needs that workers have around feeling like they have choice and control.

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