Dalton: There's a whole underbelly of folks who exist to sell you stuff rip off the people who aren't doing well. You see people writing checks for 20, 30, 40, 50 grand out of their personal checking account,. Their life savings to some dev shop. That's like their whole business model is to rip. And I think that like those founders when we have this conversation, they like, Hey, your startup failed. That doesn't mean you failed.