In the classroom outside of that, you would say Keith and Nancy. And there was a whole bunch of others that nobody ever hit. What I thought it was then was the first time that an inner process like psychology could ever be measured by it in a scientific way,. So we thought that that was like revolutionary," she says. "But later as I woke up, I realized that the whole thing is an illusion of hope"

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