Ike, I Think I Might Try That Out

We need to create real results within the business, then try to get other people there to say, oh o, that that really works. A friend of mine used to talk about this as, no one in the world would care about what, say, apples design process looks like until the iphone comes out. Or or lean manufacturing. Tooda started winning and dominating the auto market. And then they realized, oh, we need to learn from them. So i think there's something there. Til you need to create some kind of results to get people to turn their heads,. Then you can get them to adopt and try out new things.