The Importance of Trust in the Church

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"The act of turning to put the paintbrush down brought me, I saw my sister and she had been the only person in all of those months that I could talk to you about the things that I was thinking," he says. "She was the only person who would say, you know maybe yeah you're right that doesn't make sense That kind of thing just kind of outsourcing any, any critical thought." He adds: "I didn't believe it, I just felt they had repeatedly done all these things to lose my trust'

In this episode we sit down with Megan Phelps-Roper, the author of Unfollow, a memoir of her time in Westboro Baptist Church, and an exploration what it took to convince her to leave. I interviewed Megan for my upcoming book, How Minds Change, and in this interview you will learn all about assimilation and accommodation, cult deprogrammers, and the steps Megan says one must take if they want to change someone's mind.

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