Zenefits Founders

Brad Hbertson: There are exceptions. Take one at a time there. Like take Rippling, right? So I think that when Ripplings was going through YC, they took close to like a year and a half or more. Maybe it was two years to sort of officially launch. But with Park, he got this incredibly unusual deep level of product insight and domain expertise. And so he was actually the example of where he could come up in his head with here's what the product needs to be. It needs to actually be like a model product. And we only make sense to launch. If you're early stage founder listening to this and you've already built