Camarillo: Most people just start a podcast. Well, even who even cares? Like you've never listened to Joe Rogan. He says it once every three episodes. My point though is more like if you find out that like you were one of the first big podcasts, like there's probably less reason that you started out. Because he had no idea what you were doing. That's like dyslexia without even the letters. I just made an error. An error.