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Lila Rose introduces the episode topic, guests, and the show's mission to clarify sexuality, identity, and faith.

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Are sins related to homosexuality worse than other serious sins? You might think so from how the Church and many well-meaning believers address the topic. Too often, people experiencing same-sex attraction are treated like modern-day lepers. So how should we actually talk about it and how do we support those who struggle?

What can their experiences teach us about our own wounds and the ways human longing can be misdirected? Therapist Michael Gasparro and ministry leaders Andrew Comiskey and Kim Zember share how their past struggles with same-sex attraction became a path to deeper healing and intimacy with God.

In this episode, you’ll discover more about who you are, how to live compassionately, and how God designed our bodies and relationships for healthy, life-giving intimacy.

Michael's channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkD3oHy6WeE

Kim's ministry: https://boldlybeloved.com/

Andrew's ministry: https://www.desertstream.org/

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00:00:00 - Intro

00:07:53 - Kim’s background

00:13:26 - We all long for Jesus

00:21:10 - Reintegration vs Conversion Therapy

00:30:25 - What is psychologically "normal”?

00:37:22 - What is 'order'?

00:40:22 - Science and Intelligible Patterns

00:45:24 - LGBTQ Label and Fr Martin

00:57:27 - False Hope

01:04:18 - Power of Identity

01:07:13 - Convincing children to sexualize their attractions