"Body language in and of itself, I think, is overestimated in society," she says. "I have people emailing me all the time to suggest that my guests were lying on the podcast because they looked to the left or to the right." Amanda Knox was seated really close to an iMac, which has a camera at the top of the computer. And so she's looking up at the screen, then be like, screw it. I'm going to look at Jordan because he's on the screen.

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