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Death, Sex, and Money’s Anna Sale on bringing empathy to politics

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

CHAPTER

The Legend of Bill Withers

Bill Withers is the person I think of, the singer, songwriter, legend and he was actually the first episode of Death, Sex and Money. He has the gift of being able to put incredibly powerful, complex emotions into very simple words. There's that about him but also he was an enormous success when his first album came out  and then it continued to be an enormous success. The way that episode ends, I ask him like, well what are you proud of that you've done? He just says, "I know what the first lines in my bitch where you're going to be"

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