Karl Vaters interviews Rick Hiemstra, a former small church pastor, now serving as the Director of Research at the Evangelical Fellowship of Canada.

Rick and Karl talk about a wide variety of subjects, including the Church Growth Movement, technology and how it has affected the way we approach pastoring.

Some helpful insights include:

What has people’s attention is what shapes them, and technology has radically altered what has our attention
How technology has shaped people’s expectation of what to expect from their church and their pastor
How technology subconsciously changed pastors from shepherds to content producers
The important difference between “growth” and “scale”
How small churches are especially suited to meet the changing needs of a world whose attention is so easily diverted

And much more.

Links from this episode:

Rick.Hiemstra@theefc.ca

evangelicalfellowship.ca

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