The Debt Financing Scene in Ireland

Bank of Ireland and AIB are quite active at an SME level up to probably five odd million. And, but then you've got a few alternatives like dump port and people like that who will stretch and maybe charge a bit more,. But give more, maybe more quantum and more flexibility in the structure. So I think our modus operandi is like, we're not like both its line that debt is like a dagger under steering wheel. It keeps you on us when driving, hit a bump on the road and it could kill you. We're very much at that view. The senior debt available generally lands at three times even down a normal size business. Right.