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341. Secret Scientists & Real Conspiracies — John Lisle on Stanley Lovell, the OSS precursor to the CIA, and the Masterminds of World War II Secret Warfare

The Michael Shermer Show

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The Third Arm of the President's Strategy Is Diplomacy

In a sense, what you're writing about here is kind of a third arm, a third strategy for the president. The other two arms are diplomacy and war; there's also an intelligence agency in between. "We need a fourth domain," says William Donovan, head of the OSS. 'The Dirty Shricks department' creates weapons and disguises and sabotage missions.

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