#259: Learn how to pick the challenges in life that actually matter. We break down how to stop optimizing for the wrong things, why values trump goals in decision-making, practical strategies for building real friendships, and more.

Mark Manson is the bestselling author of The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck (20M+ copies sold). He hosts the Solved podcast, writes the newsletter Your Next Breakthrough, and co-founded Purpose, an AI tool for exploring purpose and values.

Link to Full Show Notes: https://chrishutchins.com/mark-manson-purpose-and-meaning

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Resources Mentioned

Mark: Website | Newsletter | X

The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck

Solved Podcast

Purpose App

Full Show Notes

(00:00) Introduction

(00:47) What Most People Get Wrong About Living a Good Life

(01:13) Why Struggle Is Inevitable and Necessary

(02:18) Why Purpose Is Revealed, Not Found

(04:34) Choosing the Right Metric To Optimize Your Life

(06:26) The Three Ingredients of Meaningful Purpose

(08:32) Why Purpose Doesn’t Require Changing the World

(12:33) Radical Honesty as the Starting Point for Meaning

(14:32) What Happens After You Achieve Everything You Wanted

(17:48) Why Other People Can See Your Purpose Before You Do

(21:06) Why Honest Conversations Are So Hard (and So Necessary)

(28:41) Why Adult Friendship Is Uniquely Difficult

(32:29) How Work, Kids, and Technology Changed Friendship

(33:27) Why “Shared Stakes” Matter More Than Shared Spaces in Adult Friendships

(37:02) When Life Feels Hard and Why That’s Normal

(42:21) Making Better Decisions by Clarifying Your Values

(43:57) How To Check In on Your Life Without Obsessing Over Goals

(46:57) When Quitting a Goal Is the Right Decision

(50:48) Why We Rarely Talk About Meaning With Friends

(53:30) Building an AI To Ask Better Life Questions

(55:04) How AI and Therapy Can Work Together

(57:52) Is It Okay If Your Job Is Not Your Purpose?

(01:00:07) The First Step Toward a More Meaningful Life

(01:01:06) How To Define Value Beyond Status

(01:02:08) Where To Find More From Mark

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