The treatment effects that I'm seeing here are just bigger than what I've seen in my other areas in emergency and critical care. So if you think about that, three quarters of people with chronic back pain were actually essentially pain free. Even the celebrity power of a Howard Stern or a John Stassel, Senator Harken held hearings in 2012 on this. And Dr. Sarno went and testified. It just seemed to me, as he was watching, now obviously, I've had some motivated reasoning going on here. We need the skeptical.

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