Orsef: The relationship and the expectations matter a lot, right? If you don't have that relationship built, if those expectations haven't been set over time. And so i think one of the first things we've done we said, no, this is the way to do it. Orsef: There's going to be some miss match is up early, right? It's going toBe rocky. But, but it's fundamental to through that behaviour change,. Otherwise you can't get to this kind of alet rabl delegation, where you have teams and practices and expectations being continually met.

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