Among the schools of indian philosophy, these all other teachings constitute what is called porvo puca for avitovetant. If you go to the original texts of adwita, veranta, shankar and poshanka ar dwitins,. They spend a lot of energy and lot of subtle argumentation in cutting down these teachings. Ultimately, devotion and surrender to god will take you beyond some star. Theism built on naa. There are great practitioners of the logicians. They were not logicians in spiritual life. Teu're all bactes. That sa tante is a poorve pucture for a bitave rante is an opponent

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