Hello and welcome to Happy Place, the show that explores the entire spectrum of human emotion. I'm Fern Cotton and today I'm having a chat with one of my best mates, Istinys Fanausen.

Hard take is horrible and it doesn't matter who you are, where you're from, what you've got, it hurts just as deep. You know, those nights have just sitting there on my patio three, four o'clock in the morning just feeling like drained and empty and just thinking, I don't know how I'm going to get through the next week because you just

feel so broken, it's horrible. Denise and I met a very long time ago, so much so that I can't remember the exact moment that we met but I know she's been in my life for a very long time and we certainly really bonded when we did our Kilimanjaro climb for comic relief again a long time ago. Now obviously Denise has had an incredible career as a presenter, actor and singer across both stage and screen and I absolutely adore hearing her sing that voice. She's so talented. Being in the public eye, her relationships and breakups

have felt like public property too.

Most notably she dated singer JK back in the 90s and has a daughter with her ex-husbandly. Now she's experiencing heartbreak again as a result of infidelity. It's definitely been a really tough time for Denise recently. We've spoken quite a bit over the last few months privately. I've just been checking in with her to see how she's getting on emotionally. So today certainly isn't the first time that we've covered these subjects so I know that Denise feels safe and comfortable talking about her breakup today to shed a little light on how it's been for her and how she is coping. I so love being able to have this chat with Denise especially given we could share our experiences of having gorgeous blended families too. Okay this is the show.

How are you Denise? I'm very well fun. How are you?

I'm good.