How to Measure Progress on a Bike Ride

"It's always a you know hard working grinding and again numbers and revenue and all those things are not necessarily bad," he says. "I try to do a better job of thinking about them in and in maybe a broader context than I used to where's the best place to ride around Seattle what's the best route if you could eliminate traffic or did you go?" we'll see so you'll go out for your bike ride and then you'll have your very descriptive answer of how you measure progress on our next episode, which airs Friday at 9 p.m. ET.

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