In this episode, Chris Do sits down with Jodie Cook for a wide-ranging conversation about playing the long game in business, relationships, and life. They unpack the difference between short-term wins and infinite games, emphasizing why building something you never want to sell leads to deeper fulfillment and clarity. Chris reflects on his own journey through financial security, meaning, and redefining success beyond money.

Together, they explore how scarcity thinking shapes decisions and why authenticity compounds over time. The discussion sets the foundation for choosing purpose-driven work that can sustain decades, not just seasons.