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Eco-Pregmatist - I'm an Eco-Pragmatist
I'm doing a bit of work with Guy Turner, who is the former head of carbon and then chief economist for new energy finance. We were just watching all of these corporates saying they were going to do offsets. And so what we're doing is a big piece of work that is about measuring supply and demand of offsets in the voluntary markets. So I think there are really interesting areas that the voluntary market can get into. But it'll need to be the nation to nation, there'll be the governmental markets that will have to deal with avoided deforestation.