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Robert Brunner: The design giant who hired Jony Ive

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The Transition From Apple to Pentagram

Hari Kallas: I'd been at Apple about seven years and the job was not that much fun anymore. He says Pentagram is more well known for brand design and graphic design than industrial design. "I had this vision in my head of Pentagram being about industrial design because of Kenneth Grange" Hari, you know, it's a testament to Colin Forbes' original partnership model - renewing self-sustaining partnerships.

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