I love that such a good message Bryce and that's why I love your podcast. It doesn't matter what you're doing if you have the knowledge or have a basic foundational understanding of what you're trying to achieve when you go to the professional it will be so much more beneficial for both parties. A property manager who we refer business to in our business gave us some very satisfying feedback at the Australian Real Estate Conference over the weekend. She said we love your clients which clearly my ego was impressed by that but she goes the reason because that they are educated When we say to them hey listen we've got to put some maintenance on these assets our clients are saying okay we got thatBecause well upstream