Conathan's parents were helicopter news journalists who pioneered the form. They covered, if not the first, the very second live police chase in real time. The station said, oh, wait, this is good for us. People will watch. Let's put this on whenever we can. We can thank my parents for that, or blame them.
Twitter's board gives Elon's bid the go-ahead, the Obamas ditch Spotify for Amazon, and TikTok denies that it's sending data to China, even as reporting says otherwise. Kara and Scott speak with MSNBC's Katy Tur about cable news, Trump, and her new memoir, Rough Draft.
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*An earlier version of the episode referred to Vanessa Pappas as the CEO of TikTok. She is the COO. We regret the error.
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