#389 "We Need to Talk About Kevin (w/ former Rep. Justin Amash)
The Fifth Column
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I'm Not Doing It on the Record Here
Ron Paul: We're already at about as bad as it can get. The whole process is closed down. It's very top down. You're not going to get much worse than Kevin McCarthy. So from my perspective, I'm willing to take this small risk of it getting a little bit worse in order for some kind of great gain"
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