The Rise of the National Conservative Movement

Do you think in the British sorry the national conservative movement is one of the movements or the movement to come and fill the void that they're leaving politically? I think on both the right and the left you're seeing you're seeing the rise of people who are trying to have a different conversation about the country. The reaction to the national conservative conference has been revealing and that it got so much reaction I think that shows that people grasp that actually there is an argument there that is going to cut through and resonate with much of the rest of the country.