I see that ambition in Taylor Swift. She's very much aware of like, where and how she wants to fit into history. I feel like she worries about legacy a lot more than someone like Beyonce or Adele does. You know, it seems her entire career. She's been quietly chasing Joni Mitchell because she knows this is a clear lineage that she wants to establish. And yet, you know, and so I think it's hard me to wrap my head around that.

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