Writing About Conversations Is a Challenge to Me?

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Everyone's in conversations wouldn't it be worth it to write about conversations more? Yeah, absolutely You is this a challenge to me? Yeah Like that's a weird thing about the world right like people of conversations all the time. Good books about conversation definitely. I also think I'm at the point where I'm learning and it's like you Make someone I mean and you learn by writing as well. So what's your favorite kind of ethnic food? Chipotle That's the first thing that comes into my head when I hear "Chipotle" It doesn't make sense But to write about basketball could help other people who are just starting out their basketball Journey or who and could help yourself learn

David Perell is a writer and the creator of Write of Passage - an online writing school focused on building the next generation of internet citizens. In March 2020, I stumbled across David’s account and was blown away by his tweets. They were thoughtful and insightful. So when he suggested interviewing me at his brand new studio, I was honored.

In this conversation we spoke about some of my podcasting secrets, how I do my research, why I admire people like Joe Rogan, Tim Ferriss, Chris Williamson, and Taylor Rooks, the biggest area I believe I need to improve as a podcaster, and what I’m usually doing on Sunday at noon. Some of what we talked about I’ve never shared publicly, and it’s only because of David’s ability as an interviewer to get it out of me.

(0:00) Intro

(2:24) My Research Process

(5:03) Gary Vaynerchuk Calls My Mom

(7:05) Coming Back To Writing

(9:01) Moving To Austin

(11:30) Long Island

(13:03) Ambition

(14:01) What Makes For A Great Podcaster?

(17:30) Who Do I Admire?

(20:02) Aesthetics

(21:22) How Am I Misunderstood?

(22:11) Grandparents