Getting Tripped Up by False Objectiveity

There's a debate in the journalism world right now about what objectivity really is and how to achieve it. Many younger journalists who may be journalists of color, maybe women will say, oh, yeah, well, whose objectivity is that exactly? We don't like that. So the word gets very caught up in that. And as a result, I mean, again, I believe in the ideas behind traditional objectivity,. The evidence-based, open-mindedness with which you go after your reporting.