Desi Lydic watches the leaked Project 2025 training videos and discovers the secret right-wing plan for transforming government, undoing climate rules, and eliminating all pronouns from the English language. Plus, the people who made them are a little weird and have close ties to Donald Trump, despite his denials. Grace Kuhlenschmidt explores the drawbacks of having a gerontocracy by chatting with UC Irvine neuropolitics researcher Mark Fisher and visits Congressman Maxwell Frost for a younger politician’s perspective. Also, actor, writer, producer, and director Mark Duplass talks to Desi about his second Emmy nomination for his role on the Apple TV+ series “The Morning Show."

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