You're best known for being the first investor into the real real, which had a huge IPO and has since struggled. How much are you able or willing to tell us about how you might have handled that one? So I have been off the board there for a couple of years and I'll tell you what we try to do as a policy internally. By the time a company goes public, we've probably been in the company from anywhere between 7 to 12 years. It's a long road.

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