Speaker 2
Is there a story with being that? Oh, man, I want to hear this one.
Speaker 1
Let's see. Let's hear about the not being nice. Oh, there's the not being nice. Oh, yeah. It's got a number. Yeah. Popovich is a top of it. You know who pop of it is? I didn't know who he was. He said, if you type into YouTube, pop of it yells at his players. I don't even know what I think it was basketball. Papa Swoleo.
Speaker 2
If you want daily motivation to go to the gym, follow Papa Swoleo on TikTok. He's great. If you keep slacking, you're going to end up on my naughty list. And let me tell you something. You don't want to end up on Papa Swoleo's naughty list. No, you don't. Oh, yes. Give it to me, Daddy. Mm-mm. Greg Popovich screaming at his players compilation. Sounds like you found it. Yeah. 14 seconds. I mean, this guy just takes all the fun out of
Speaker 1
it. Now here's what he's spotlighted about him, though. And he wasn't the only one he spotlighted like this. This is a guy who gets in your face, who yells, who is an angry dad, and who cares deeply and pulls out all the stops for your birthday party and, and while we're wine together. So he's deeply involved and caring and deeply confronted, very much like what you described in your childhood that it's really supportive and really confrontatory. Yeah. So yeah, that combination creates connectedness.
Speaker 2
So this is a good example. It was a good example.
Speaker 1
It was an example of not always being nice. Okay. He had the
Speaker 2
respect from the players in other ways so that when he yelled at them, they took it seriously and they were okay, they didn't get like annoyed by him. They just they felt like I need to step it up.
Speaker 1
You take it seriously because this guy is on your team and you're on his team and he had military examples of that too, which I don't recall that specifically. He's spotlighted the Navy seals at some point. He spotlighted another military team that did these, these special operations that were really risky, really dangerous. And that is where he talks about the, I think it's called the AAR, the after action review that when you've done this military operation and things go wrong or things that don't go wrong, but people can get killed and people do get killed that you have an immediate after action review and the after action review is not to credit and not to blame. It is to create a shared mental model of what happened so that the next time you're prepared for that, but it has to be ruthlessly objective about what happened and each person involved has to mess up, has to honestly take responsibility for their role in