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The Ringer: Bill Simmons
How I Built This with Guy Raz
Grantlyn: The First Time You Were Running a Team of People
I think people miss some of what Grantlyn was trying to do. We had nine of the top 10 podcasts at ESPN during a time when podcasts were starting to make real money and they didn't know how to monetize it. I feel like we did that and Grantlyn broke even. But we should have made more money. And I could just see the finish line. I just knew like we were headed toward a bad place. It was getting more and more frustrating. This really was the first time you were managing people. You were running a team of people. Yeah, that was, which, I was ready for in some ways because I watched Jimmy do it and I watched
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