In the Mahanara and Upanishad, so you can see the entire universe means three levels. Drishyate, Shriyate, Drishate means whatever you experience with your senses or with the instruments which extend the power of our senses. All of that is pervaded by Narayana. And Krishna is using that to draw our attention towards God. But then, if that's true, in that case, we are in a certain sense experiencing God. We are experiencing God.