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The Wagner Group Mutinied Under Evgeny Pragogen
Amitai Etzioni: I think along with that 20th century story, you speak off of liberal democracy and the fights that were fought in its name. He says maybe there's a 21st century where we've streamed different kinds of mainstreams crumbling and decentralization takeover. In that sense, a Russia, Ukraine war, he would hope from a naive place is a throwback and perhaps even the last war - because some war has to be the last war. But for now, this was a great episode. I learned a lot. And hopefully people will follow our new show on YouTube.