Duarkesh: The debate must always be about the ideas, not the people. Every group of people that have done something important in history has been weird. There's a long-standing western tradition of millenarianism which generates apocalypse cults. I'm confident Mark genuinely believes what he says, but even if I'm wrong, who cares? If we're going to play a game of guilt by affiliation with Sam Bagman-Fried, might I point out one of the world's largest crypto investors probably has fewer degrees of separation between themselves and Sam than a Turing Award winner?