There is a big disconnect between the power and the people in that sense, what people really want. It's almost like something's changed in the past few years, that the official public conversation is more sanitized or something. If there would have been discussion in this country before Sweden joining or deciding to apply for the NATO, it would have come out how we can prepare ourselves not to be blackmailed by Turkey nor Hungary. Those kind of things which I think needed some real discussions would have been good.
Joining
UnHerd to talk about why so few voices in public life and the media have spoken out against the shipment of cluster bombs, and about the recession of anti-war sentiment more widely, is the academic and writer Ashok Swain. A professor of peace and conflict research at Uppsala University in Sweden, he is one of the world’s leading experts on conflict resolution. His nation of residence is now set to join Nato, and he sat down with Freddie Sayers to unpick how Sweden’s proposed membership goes against its history of neutrality.
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