Speaker 2
As you share about the olympic mountains. And a go in across five 20, seeing this beauty that moves you to tears, it makes me think. It makes me wonder what if it's possible that god can create something more beautiful than the olympic mountains in the landscape of the hearts of the tramatized? And it's not a rhetorical question like that's what you're claiming. Yes, the subtitle of the book is, how past suffering reveals our true calling. And so there's a linkage between the harm of our past and our calling in the present and future. And there's something immensely hopeful about that and meaningful about that. And when you talk about seeing the olympic mountains and the beauty of that, i mean, how important and cool would it be if each of us could begin to see something of the olympic mountains that god is creating in our hearts in the midst of and through the trama that we've prienced? That's not minimizing the drama. It's not saying that the drama was a means to the end of our further glory, by no means. We're not saying that. But we are saying that the olympic mountains are being created in people's hearts.
Speaker 1
Youko, if i understand the work of evil in this world, it's it's to tell us that it's too late, that we're too oken, that there's no hope. And you know, often we'll hear those whisperings in us, like, well, you know, if any one really knew what you were really like underneath? Or make sure you pretend, or make sure they never find you out. Or just give up, because you know you're always just going to be the way tha you are. Every year at am, new year's i hate it though, new year's resolution thing makes me bonkers, because it's just, it's not true. And, and it's not what redemption and repair and the resurrection really look like, right? It's that senseof, like, self improvement is not the hope and the promise of the resurrection. The hope and promise of the resurrection is that we are broken and we are incredibly beautiful. Both are true at the same time. And jesus knows that, and has created a path forward where we get to reclaim the beauty that we were once created for, that has been marred and marked by the fall, marred and marked by sin, by our own failures, by other people's failures. But the resurrection gets to be true in our hearts and in our bodies as we seek to tell the truth, and as we seek to understand more of how evil has come into our lives in particular moments, to recavic and mar that which is the most beautiful parts of us, that were most created for beauty and am and created to bring beauty to the earth, i think that's am so incredibly hopeful. But it's so different then, like, ok, i'm going to just pull myself up by my boot straps. Like if if resurrection wasn't real, if god didn't intervene in some way, that that on a spiritual level, on a mystical, magical level, i don't think we each have the capacity to become better on our own. Like, we can try really hard, but how many people do you know are just ex sted by it, exhausted by the feeling of like, wall i'll all get back on my palaton by you know, i'm going, i'm going to become a better person to morrow. You know, it's exhausting. And it's just not the invitation of god. The invitation of god is to lean into the mystical sense that the resurrection is real and that beauty can be created in us as we give ourselves over to grief, over to heartache over to the reality of what's been true in our stories. But it's only through giving ourselves over to it, not pulling ourselves up right. It's, it's the inverse. It's, it's letting ourselves be taken in by the beauty and the mystery am and then hoping that and and believing and having faith that god is on the other side and that there can be something good.